[Perndog]

Yeah, I don't know where he pulled Plato from. But to run with that ball, the proof of Plato's existence is that we have stuff that he wrote, which shows beyond doubt that *someone* existed to write those things, whether they were true or not. This is the only thing that we can know for sure, though; I personally doubt that the stuff leading up to Socrates's death really happened like Plato wrote it.

As far as the Bible goes, the same rule applies: the only sure thing is that its writers existed. Who doesn't believe John and Paul were real people? Anyone? Yeah, that's what I thought.

And Vinthy-poo, unlike yourself, people in my family generally make it past 5th grade by the time they're 16 years old. My sister happens to be busy training for the Junior Olympics right now.