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Old Mar 22nd, 2004, 11:51 PM       
Burbank : "Israel wants to commit to to full bodied genocide or ethnic cleansing"

Can you prove any violence against Palestinians is ethnically motivated or that Israel has sponsored killings based on religious or racial hatred rather then security. It's not.

Burbank: "Because the Israeli's are the haves and the Palestinians are th have nots."

The perception amongst Israelis and their supporters is that this conflict is between Israel against the entire Arab world NOT just the Palestinians. Who declared war on Israel at it's inception? Hint - It wasn't the Palestinians. If Israel declared a full on war against Palestinians who would they be fighting against? The ENTIRE Arab world. The Palestinians are pawns, and the reals "haves" are their own people. This is why every negotiation with the Palestinians involves bargaining the issue of Israel's recognition by the Arab world.


Zhukov: "The victims of this latest attack, and all others, are the Palestinian and Israeli working people. "

Israel and Zionism was initially founded on Socialist, and Communist principles within a Democratic context. The Israeli working people are responsible for their own security, and this mission you're critical of. As for the Palestinian working class, I can only hope less of them will be blackmailed into blowing themselves up as part of Yassin's Or Rantisi's or Arafat's genocidal dreams.

Zhukov : "Israel will never abandon it's state terrorism, it is against it's own interests. "

What interests are those? Stop hinting and say what you really believe.

Zhukov: " It also serves nicely to justify the wall they are building which cuts right through whole Palestinian communities. "

These communities were never connected in the first place. You're speaking of land that was either A) never inhabited or B) was owned by three different nations. Whatever issues you're speaking of already existed BEFORE any walls. There have never been proper roads connecting these villages...because they were NEVER connected in the first place.

Zhukov: "The Palestinian people will continue to live in a prison house, without jobs, without decent water etc,"

A) unlike Jews, the Palestinians have 21 other countries in the middle east to live in. 70% have chosen Jordanian citizenship. Any "Prison House" is the fault of the Palestinians own autonomous leadership, and the Arab nations who rule their own people with dictatorships and oppression. B) They had jobs inside Israel before the Intifada. Many Arabs hold jobs within Israel, and really why is it Israel's responsibility to employ a nation that claims it's ready for soveriegnty? C) Water? You're going to blame Israel for a water crisis that effects the ENTIRE area? Jews suffer from the same water rationing crisis as Arabs.

Some thoughts:

- Genocide breaches international law, and the leaders of Hamas are responsible for the murder and wounding of thousands of Isrealis, and Americans. Yassin is responsible for the child abuse, and deaths of countless more Palestinians.

- Hamas already escalated the level of attacks when they sent two teenage boys into Ashdod with the intent of releasing a poison cloud over Central Israel.

- This was in preparation of Israel handing over Gaza.
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