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Originally Posted by Abcdxxxx
This will be the last time I rephrase this for the confused....
Sodomy, humiliation with Womens underwear, stripping victims down, verbal abuse, and holding forced poses for extreme periods of time are hallmark tactics of hazing, and unique to crimes we label hazing-like, a term commonly associated with prison abuse in cases when relevant. Torture, beatings, and murder, are not to be minimized or written of as simply pranks or hazings, but in specific cases such as this one, it would be a diservice to ignore the relevance and reflections of hazing like activities or mentalities, inherent with the tragedy. Curing this problem will involve more then firing Rumsfeld.
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If, after they were tortured, the Iraqis were given housing on fraternity row, lots of beer and shots, a stupid chapter "fight song," and perhaps an intramural volleyball team, I might agree with you; otherwise, it's a shitty analogy.