[kellychaos]

I'm sick of lame excuses like:

For not answering prayers: Some of God's greatest gifts are unanswered prayers.

For not helping: God helps those who help themselves.

For making fucked up things happen: The Lord works in mysterious ways.

It's all rubbish to explain time, chance and the unexplainable.

And so it goes with your "eternal" argument, Seth. We can't explain God in temporal terms since the matrix of human thought demands "cause and effect" and, if we were to say that God is the "prime mover" or uncaused cause, then people would have a problem with that because they would demand who created God. Thus, we will say that He is "eternal" and put it out of the realm of things humans can think about and into the realm of the metaphysical thus avoid having the argument at all. It's a cop-out is what it is.

And Kahl: I loved the infinite musical scale analogy. It's so Zeno! ... and I'm not being ironic.

And Vinth:

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that who ever believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

The Bible, John 3:16

That's just off the top of my head. Let me know if you want to go quote for quote. The Bible anthropomorphizes God in several different instances and is not the Bible the word of God? Don't contradict yourself now!