[kahljorn]

anything can be witnessed in a lab innumerable times, any person can prove any theory if given enough time to stir over it. It's more a matter of them becoming convinced that their results are real, rather than the law is true.

The simple fact of the matter, sethomas, is we can sit around and discuss how thermodynamics took place in the actual big bang, but that does absolutely nothing to explain how the energy got there in the first place. It's just like, "If god created the universe, whom created God"?
Quite simply, thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created. Yet, scientists have this giant lump of clay energy they somehow believe "created the universe" as we know it, yet they cannot explain what created the lump of clay because it defies every single set of scientific laws they have. So you can attire in symantics, that somehow thermodynamics have an importance because they play a part in the already created universe, but just try to keep your mind focused on the difference between "Created" and "Non created". "Initial" and "Proceeding".