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Old Mar 15th, 2003, 08:29 AM        Re: The Current World Lie
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Originally Posted by FS
Pants, your problem is that your mind is a one-way street.
How so FS? Is my mind a one way street or is yours? I have come to the conclusion that America is making the right decision based on years of reading news, analysis, history, and facts. You deny historical trends, you deny current events, you deny everything you hear, because you want to live in a eutopian world, where there are no problems or wars. You can tell me all you want that this isn't true, but your posts speak for themselves.

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There is an international sentiment of Anti-Americanism, that quite frankly, I think dwarfs the VERY recent Anti-French sentiment in the United States.
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Originally Posted by FS
I think the majority of Americans GROSSLY oversize the anti-Americanism in Europe. There are massive anti-war protests, but they are aimed towards the American government. The narrow-minded "all Americans are devils" attitude lies in the Middle East. We're not yet that far. Don't act like you know what's going through the heads of people overseas.
http://www.euobserver.com/index.phtml?sid=9&aid=10547

http://www.expatica.com/germany.asp?...&item_id=29569

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w.../03/2003_27069

http://www.iht.com/articles/89722.html

I do seem to have it wrong according to thos articles, huh? Dream on FS of a world where America feeds all of it's money to everyone else and is crushed under the thumb of the international community. Tell yourself the whole time, it was because we were "arrogant."

Your own quote sums up your entire sentiment....

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Originally Posted by FS
The narrow-minded "all Americans are devils" attitude lies in the Middle East. We're not yet that far.
That's truly touching FS...

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Our Anti-French feelings are regarding France's recent actions, not their right to voice their opinion
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Like I said. People aren't protesting the American way of life, they're protesting the outright defiance of the American government for international opinion.
I'll address this below when I comment on your statement about sitting at the table with everyone else.

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While this is going on daily, the United kingdom is continually refusing to join the Euro. Ask yourselves this before jumping to conclusions... can you blame them? How would you feel merging with the Mexican Peso? Or, better yet, the Argentine dollar? They would be out of their minds to join right now.
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They've been against this since day one because the UK has a big issue with changing their traditions. Hell, ALL of the EU officially changed the date they go into daylight savings in order to synchronize watches with the UK! The Dutch Guilder was a strong coin and we, too had to watch the Euro plummet in value during the months up until the European coin conversion. It was a sacrifice we made for the greater good of the whole EU. That's what the EU is all about.
I'm not saying you won't pull them in eventually, but don't feed me the lie that they don't want to break tradition... Spare me. Although the Dutch Guilder was strong, it didn't carry NEAR the same impact the assimilation of the pound will. If you believe that, you are only lying to yourself. You know as well as I do, that there are major problems in stabilizing the EU, and more specifically, the Euro, and if you think thats my American perception, think again. My entire knowledge of the EU and the Euro comes from European news sources. It is very rarely spoken about by any major news outlet in the U.S. and any American on this board can confirm that.

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The Anti-American sentiment in this effort is nothing but a pathetic attempt to "control" or "harness" America. But, it's not America who is causing this problem. It is the International "community"
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Originally Posted by FS
A perfect verbal illustration of why debating with you is pointless. You are simply incapable of acknowledging anything negative about your country, your president and your people.

What you see as an attempt at controlling America is actually the international community trying to make America sit amongst them, instead of at the head of the table. That takes sacrifices, it takes the rich getting poorer while the poor get richer. It takes a less self-serving and egotistical direction than the one Bush is steering America into right now.
Actually, you are completely incorrect in your assumption that I am incapable of seeing fault within this country. There are many, just as there are in all countries. What I won't concede to, is your imbecilic Euro-leftist view, that the United States owes something to the EU. We dont owe anything to anyone... quite the opposite in my opinion, but I'll save that for another thread. "That takes the rich getting poorer, while the poor getting richer." Thats a spectacular socialist Eutopia you speak of. I guess it all ends up ok for you though, considering that in that analogy, the United States are the Evil Rich Empire (oops, I forgot, your opinion isn't yet that far) and the Europeans stand only to get richer...

You should really bring something to the table before you try to cut a deal FS. Perhaps start by enforcing your own rules, and punishing France and Germany for underperformance in their economies. Maybe then, you can make some money and earn your own spot at the table, with the Big Rich Empire.
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