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Old Dec 22nd, 2004, 05:02 PM       
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Originally Posted by El Blanco
Ya, there is a lot of politics involved and I'm sure its going to be exposed by opponents of the UN.

People who oppose someone or something on a political stance attack it for any perceived scandal or imporper action.
You perhaps should've stopped yourself here.....


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Honestly, I think Annon has to step down. Even if its son and not him, its a major blow to credability. You can't get mad at Bush because some of Cheney's old friends at Haliburton get rich in Iraq, and then excuse Annon because his it was his son and not him directly that manipulating this whole thing.
1. NOTHING has been proven yet, in terms of indicting Annan for anything. Doesn't asking the man to step down, prior to the findings of the investigation, seem sort of ass-backward????

2. Dick Cheney is STILL our Vice President. NO investigations have been brought against him, despite the fact that we STILL don't know exactly what went down between him and the interests from the energy biz in the White House. Haliburton still gets the contracts, and nobody has raised an eyebrow, so your point is moot. Do you think VP Cheney should step down? What about Sec. Rumsfeld? I can think of some pretty big blunders and exaggerations put forward by this administration *cough*WMD!*cough* No heads rolled, and no big jobs were loss (with of course the exception of George Tenet, but Mr. "slam dunk" set himself up for that one).

3. You avoided all of the important aspects here: Jordan and Turkey, American approval of OFF contracts, turning a blind eye, etc. Yet you seem pretty damn sure that Kofi Annan did something weally weally bad, and he should probably step down. Why doesn't this administration agree with you? What's their angle....?

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There is nothing I'd love more than to see people get rid of all this rediculous moral postuering when discussing things like this.
Oh, shove it. Be careful on that high horse of yours.....

If defending a man with a terribly difficult (and historically unpopular) job who is becoming the victim of a witch hunt (my words, not his) is "posturing," then allow me to posture away.....

Those who supported this war, particularly the GOP in Congress and the White House, want pay back. They were slapped in the face by this body and this man in their build up to war, and now they want to grab hold of the proberbial reigns. Why give him a vote of confidence? Could it be at al likely that maybe we're hoping this will mute him on the international field, making him more maliable...? Like you said, this is an issue of "credibility," and if Annan is even perceived to be lacking in such, it will make him less brazen and more agreeable to our agenda.
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