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Originally Posted by Kev
Will innocent people get kidnapped and beheaded in Spain due to this position?
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Originally Posted by Blanc
So, if in retaliation, some of bin Laden's people blow up a shopping mall full of people in Madrid to punish the council, is it still a unhestitated "yes"?
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This is EXACTLY what I was getting at. And my answer is still yes - because you can hardly blame the council for the violent actions of terrorists when they are calling for peace! That's like blaming Dr. King for racial violence. If people stop asking for peace because someone is killed, then they aren't serious about asking for peace. I say never stop calling for peace, and never fear the "consequences" of calling for peace.
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Originally Posted by KevinTheOmnivore
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Originally Posted by ziggytrix
Unless you think killing and violence are necessary conditions of humanity.
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many. Many people would have said "most." I would very much like to read the Q'ran, because I often hear passages cited trying to show what a violent and intolerant religion it is, but heck, you take half a dozen of the Old Testament passages and you could paint Christianity as a violent, intolerant religion. There are many people who would agree with the necessity of violence - muslim, christian, or whatever - actually, scares the shit outta me when people use their religion to justify violence. A "holy" war with modern technology could easily wipe us all off the face of the planet.
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this public decree might not be all that big of a deal. That, I think, is partly the reason Blanco raised the question. He also did it to start conversation, which is what we all do, so stop being so damn anal.
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Well fuck man, I thought I was conversing! When did you become such a damn pain in the ass? He asked if it was good that these muslims issued this fatwa, and I said, yes, hell yes, how could it be bad? We can sit here all day and talk about
how good it is, but I'd be extremely disappointed if someone said "this is a bad thing." I'm so sorry I didn't interpret his question the same way as you did Kevin.
