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					Originally Posted by VinceZeb
					
				 
				Do you believe that most people in the West Bank and Gaza want to live under Arafat and fight all day? 
			
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				If that were the case, then they shouldn’t have a state, should they?
			
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				If they did not try to kill Israeli citizens, they Israel would not have a reason to attack them.
			
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 This is very naive. I'm not dismissing the suicide bombings, but I am dismissing your assumption that this is all merely self-defense on the part of the Israelis.