[ziggytrix]

I'd also like you to provide me with a few examples of papal "edicts" or whatever that conflict entirely with the scriptures, and would thus drive people to a protestant church (where the scriptural conflict presumably doesn't exist).

I'm talking about cases where the scripture doesn't spell it out, like for birth control.

It's not because they are wrong, it's because they aren't the Roman Catholic Church. But it's also because they are wrong. Have you ever been to a universalist church....?

Nope, been thinking about it though. It can't be any weirder than the Catholic Church I went to with my grandparents in some backwoods town in Arkansas. I'm supposing that was supposed to be a joke, though?

Where in the scriptures is there any support for ordaining women? Did Christ ever ordain a woman....? If the Church allowed women to become priests, wouldn't they thus be breaking from scripture?

Where in the scriptures is there any support for mortal men ordaining anything?

But sure, whatever:

Originally Posted by Galatians 3

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Of course, in 1Timothy Paul straight up says he doesn't want any women taking leadership positions over men...

But then fuck what Paul said, let's go back to what Jesus said:

Originally Posted by Matthew 29

1 Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples,
2 saying, "The scribes and the Pharisees have taken their seat on the chair of Moses.
3 Therefore, do and observe all things whatsoever they tell you, but do not follow their example. For they preach but they do not practice.
4 They tie up heavy burdens and lay them on people's shoulders, but they will not lift a finger to move them.
5 All their works are performed to be seen. They widen their phylacteries and lengthen their tassels.
6 They love places of honor at banquets, seats of honor in synagogues,
7 greetings in marketplaces, and the salutation 'Rabbi.'
8 As for you, do not be called 'Rabbi.' You have but one teacher, and you are all brothers.
9 Call no one on earth your father; you have but one Father in heaven.

So I think the protestants have a pretty good case for saying the pope is invalid. But whatever, even if every single Christian in the world agreed, they'd still have Muslims and Jews to argue with. I think the whole lot of you are ridiculously self assured in your own holiness.