[Nom]

Finally we’re getting somewhere. I don’t know why it was so hard to admit that the Demiurge can be described as evil. Now that that’s out of the way, thanks for getting to some of the real points, such as what do we do with this knowledge. I guess everyone’s got to be the initiate for at least a day. Don’t go getting all Zen on me though, I haven’t got the patience in regards to this topic, nor do I have the time to pore over umpteen references; that’s what I have you suckers for! Not that I don’t appreciate the references, I do, and I will try to peruse them.

I’m aware that there are whole schools of thought on dialectics. I just think it’s purely semantics; I’m not convinced that dialectics represent reality. Evil exists as suffering, if nothing else. That’s my metaphor and I’m sticking to it.

I could be considered a recovering Christian. Curiously enough though (ziggytrix, close your eyes for this part – Surgeon General declares it’s headache inducing), Gnosticism at its root IS a primarily Christian sect, and it’s fascinating to me, that mainstream Christians generally have not even HEARD of Gnosticism. I hadn’t. I read something somewhere, but had not comprehended the logic. I had my own epiphany on the POE without having (the luxury of?) a professor drilling it into my head. And yeah, if I may indulge in mythical definition, I’m pissed that I did not recognize the inherent evil of the creator, partly due to his propensity for thwarting discovery of his true nature.

That said; don’t miss the inference that I am not interested in whether I live up to Gnosticism, but in finding out how well Gnosticism lines up with my version of the truth; and of course, by the by acquiring new perspectives.

You said (kahljorn), “Nobody cares if the "Demiurge" is capitolized but you. An ignorant beast of a creature doesn't deserve the attention. In fact, it's kind of funny that you obsess over this, when the very nature of the being is being ignorant that it's not god”.

I’m not saying the Demiurge is cool. Far from it. The only reason I’m “obsessed” with the creator, as you put it, is precisely because I hate the bastard. To know thine enemy is to know how to defeat him (or escape him). And no, I’m not trying to shock Christians (but if that’s a byproduct, cool); I just think Gnosticism embodies what Christianity SHOULD HAVE EVOLVED INTO over the years.

So, I win; I’m Gumby dammit.

Regards,

Nom