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Originally Posted by ItalianStereotype
desperation is understandable, but the abandonment of humanity is not. there is no excuse, not hunger or thirst or the discomfort of displacement, for rape and murder. even animals will shit in the corner.
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So would failing to meet the needs of disaster victims count as an "abandonment of humanity"??? If all of those relief agencies and mechanisms that are put in place to help those who become victims of these sort of fail, and people are abandoned in a convention center, in a sporting arena, by their city, state, and country, who precisely do they owe cordiality and civility to????
People are fucking pissed, and they have every right to be. I like to think I wouldn't loot, wouldn't steal, mug, or become violent. It's also great to make those guarantees from my computer desk.
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I'm willing to bet that, for most of the other celebrities, this is a chance to stroke their egos instead of do some good. I've given money of my own, money that I really can't afford to lose, and I've volunteered with many of the churches here in San Antonio to provide relief. I'm not just speaking out of my ass.
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The problem with this argument, like with what Vince said, is that it sounds like an attempt to qualify sincerity. If I told you that some of those above mentioned celebrities were giving loads of cash, and were in fact helping out, would that make their opinions more valid???
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the race issue again. I'm so fucking sick of the race issue that I could cry and then, I don't know, run over someone or something.
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Right, but you've contested the "race issue" with a fluffy blog article which talks about color coded tribes. Not exactly the best way to dispute the "race issue" in my mind....
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this situation calls for a bit of the old stiff upper lip. get some backbone and get the fucking job done. if you're not getting help from the government or whoever you THINK you need to rely on, then get the fuck up and do it yourself. I can't feel any sympathy for the governor or the mayor, especially after reading reports of their gross mismanagement of levee funds and disaster relief funds. why did they take money that was supposed to improve the levees and deepen a commercial canal that is rarely used by another six feet?
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Again, i think your facts are a bit slanted. I've also read about the levee funds, and to my understanding, they needed to pay the engineers who started the work, even though the job wasn't complete.
You can preach about a "stiff upper lip" and not relying on government and all that jazz, but I think that debate is often great for internet message boards and for folks (like myself) who have never had to do a whole lot of lip stiffening, at least not of this magnitude.