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So would failing to meet the needs of disaster victims count as an "abandonment of humanity"??? If all of those relief agencies and mechanisms that are put in place to help those who become victims of these sort of fail, and people are abandoned in a convention center, in a sporting arena, by their city, state, and country, who precisely do they owe cordiality and civility to????
People are fucking pissed, and they have every right to be. I like to think I wouldn't loot, wouldn't steal, mug, or become violent. It's also great to make those guarantees from my computer desk.
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people have every right to be pissed, yes, their entire lives have been turned around. does this give anyone the right or the justification to revert to the most base and savage aspects of humanity? there is NO justification for rape, NO justification for murder, and NO justification for looting, beyond what is needed by some to survive.
besides, I've seen plenty of aid going out to these people.
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The problem with this argument, like with what Vince said, is that it sounds like an attempt to qualify sincerity. If I told you that some of those above mentioned celebrities were giving loads of cash, and were in fact helping out, would that make their opinions more valid???
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anyone who puts forth effort and aid has more validity in their opinion than someone who does nothing. most celebrities expect the power of their image and their name to be enough, but it isn't. most of these people aren't humanitarians at all.
I believe the old saying goes "never argue politics with the man commanding a legion."
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Right, but you've contested the "race issue" with a fluffy blog article which talks about color coded tribes. Not exactly the best way to dispute the "race issue" in my mind....
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what I took from the article isn't actually about race. don't dig too deeply, it's about people who do something and those who expect something to be done for them.
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Again, i think your facts are a bit slanted. I've also read about the levee funds, and to my understanding, they needed to pay the engineers who started the work, even though the job wasn't complete.
You can preach about a "stiff upper lip" and not relying on government and all that jazz, but I think that debate is often great for internet message boards and for folks (like myself) who have never had to do a whole lot of lip stiffening, at least not of this magnitude.
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maybe mine are slanted, maybe yours are. I guess it depends on the accuracy of the source.
all I'm saying is, instead of blaming the government, Bush, whatever, it's time for these people to really buckle down and make things better for themselves. I've spent hours helping displaced refugess find jobs, providing food and clothing, and I've helped a lot of them talk through everything that's happened to them. most of them want to get their lives in order as quickly as possible, it's just a matter of getting it done.