[iron mitchell]

"Netflix dont carry them. Where can i find these movies?"

wow, you can't even use a search engine? netflix has both. these movies are not hard to find at all.

some other fairly brutal stuff (without sacrificing too much other content) you can find on netflix...

come and see, irreversible, i stand alone, black sun: the nanking massacre, kichiku dai enkai, the guinea pig series (particularly flower of flesh and blood), man behind the sun, and the isle.

i keep crossing my fingers that they'll get aftermath/genesis so i don't have to buy it... i'm about to give up.