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Originally Posted by Preechr
After three pages, it's pretty obvious this discussion is going nowhere. It seems to me, and I might be wrong, that a discussion of this type is one of ethical and even (OMG!) metaphysical concerns moreso than one of science or math. As scientifically oriented and theologically ignorant individuals, I'm sure you believe your part in this discussion would be to stop it altogether, since you might well believe science to for some reason be at odds with metaphysics or any sort of God-talk.
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Or, and stay with me here, maybe this discussion has been done and done and done, and this time through some of your "adversaries" are taking the flippant route. You are, after all, in the message board attached to a HUMOR site, not a religious site,, so do keep that in mind at all times.
At any rate, the problem with your definition of free will is it assumes that the existence of God is requisite to the argument, when, in my estimation, there can be atheistic arguments for and against the philosophy of determinism.
That said, I think the great majority of discussion in this thread is mental masturbation. Alas the difference between staying power and tedious monotany is subjective. So do what you gotta do, I won't hold it against you.
