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Originally Posted by CaptainBubba
Really you have little right to criticize my simply yacking on about econ 101 because all you've managed to do so far is formulate your own theories and say you just don't believe ones your opponents present.
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hang on a second.
Bubba says: "ECON 101!!"
I say: "Some studies have shown," etc. etc.
Who's formulating their own theories here??? You can disagree with what I cited, that's all well and good (and you're right about some folks disputing it). But please refrain from crying about what right I or we have to criticize you.
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Regardless of the validity of any of these complaints its pretty obvious something is amiss because no logical argument or explanation could satisfy the link their trying to make, which is that higher minimum wages cause employment. Sure a few have suggested that but their explanations largely rely on a great deal more time than this study spans. One specific major oversight is that if they're were looking at fast food chains then employment is directly tied to one's hours. Its entirely possible they all hired more employees to fill in the gaps in shifts where people nomally overlapped eachother doing the same job.
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Or, fast food chains raising their wages made those jobs more appealing, thus people took them. That's me speculating upon your speculations.....but wait, you don't speculate and "formulate," you cite resources. I forgot.
The point is that there is research out there (along with what Ziggy posted) that shows lower unemployment due to an increase in wages in shitty jobs (like fast food). This of course can be disputed, but it's a far cry from the straight up contradiction that you seem to think exists between higher wages and unemployment.
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Being the defender of the poor on these boards have you yourself ever worked in a minimum wage enviroment? They will try to squeeze every dollar of work out of you that is possible to make a profit out of you. A modest increase like this might mean they eliminate you if it is within reason, and having worked in such an enviroment its really not something hard to imagine.
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Once again, 12 states
already have a higher minimum wage than the federal level, and unemployment at the very least (taking even your criticisms into consideration) has proven in some sectors to remain steady.
Look, if you're going to take personal jabs at me and be a bitch about it, can't you at least go and cite some data from like the Cato Institute or something? I mean, at least put some effort into being a dick.
EDIT: And regarding your stupid-ass litmus test question, yes, I've worked minimum wage.