[Preechr]

There's TONS of that lying around. I kinda figured that kal might read through some new stuff before he looked up the readily available criticisms of it.

As I've said, the argument is very interesting. I was reluctant to post any links to anything because googling any of it finds much more criticisms of it then it does support.

That sort of excuses my skepticism, though, doesn't it? Certainly Behe has caused a lot of thought to be put into evolutionism that might not have been added were it not for his skepticism. His ideas were obviously valid enough at one point to have warranted the attention of many, many smart guys hostile to his position.

I said it before, I'm neither for creationism or evolutionism nor ID. I look at what comes out of all the little black boxes. I'm an ethicist, if anything.... maybe a moralist. I could give two shits about where we come from to be honest. I have my own beliefs, but were they proven wrong my life would not change. My remarks concern the behavior of the parties involved. My first post here regarded the arrogant way in which ID proponents were automatically dismissed as ignorant, bible-thumping cave luddites, but what pissed me off is how the method used was to change their position and then deride it.

If I have a dog in this fight at all, it's only that I believe the philosophical ramifications of Darwinism as a pseudo-religion are upsetting on a societal level. I also wanted to stir up enough shit to drag this thread out a few pages so Kevin would say, "Hey, this was a fun topic! Maybe I should have stickied it like I originally thought instead of questioning my judgement..."