[KevinTheOmnivore]

Originally Posted by MockMc

Aren't we supposed to post our own thoughts, rather than those of journalists?

No, we're supposed to actually read what people post before we comment. That's usually pretty helpful.

You can't make a law that forces people to be good parents, to only use abortion in cases when it's legitimised but to have respect for human life in other cases, or to use drugs respectively. You can make laws that give some semblance of moral policy.

We do have laws that at least set bear standards for parenting. The government doesn't tell people what being a great parent is, but it does tell you what you absolutely can't do.

You can't get a woman pregnant and then dump parenting solely on her lap. You can't beat your children to the point that it exceeds harmless discipline. You can't starve your children, and generally, you can't deny them basic public education until they are presumably conscious enough to make that decision on their own.

It's not crazy to think that the representatives of a state could legislate to minimalize what is essentially a destructive and risky procedure. States have the power to do it when it comes to something trivial like cosmetic surgery, why can't they have the power to set a bear standard for what is acceptable abortion policy?

Cater to the idiots, because you know they won't be taking their responsabilities and actually give their children a decent education themselves, oh no.

I'm not entirely sure what this means, but if I'm interpreting you correctly, it sounds like the same old argument about abortion and childcare in this country. I mean, if a child is going to be poor, uneducated, and mistreated, why should they live, right? Aborting him or her would really be doing them a favor, right?

This eugenics-light kind of argument isn't too far from what led Margaret Sanger to become such a strong abortion advocate. So rather than the state deciding who is worthy to live, we have parents (along with abortion doctors and pp clinics) deciding who deserves to die. Sounds fair to me.

Thirdly, because nobody really knows what goes on with abortion. Baby dies, sure. But was it a human life already? It was going to be one eventually, but is it a crime to kill something that doesn't live yet?

Well sure, this is the main debate right here. But again, you don't need to approach abortion from a Bible-thumping perspective in order to be skeptical about abortion. States decide all of the time what is appropriate and inappropriate for us to do to ourselves. We have liberty, we have freedom, but we're not free to exceed what the general public as a whole may perceive as too vulgar, too extreme, and too risky.

Why is polygamy illegal? It doesn't necesarily hurt anybody, and it's people doing what they choose with their bodies, no? The reason it's illegal is because society looks down upon it, and thus public push made it illegal. People don't care what you do with however many people in your own closed bedroom, but they don't want the state to acknowledge and accept your behavior. People didn't want to sign off on the practice by defacto.

I'm in favor of abortion. Not because I think it has benefits to the parents, not for the sake of society, not for the baby, and how it won't get a good education if it's parents hate it. But just because IT IS EVERY HUMAN BEINGS DAMN RIGHT TO DO WHAT THEY WANT AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T HARM OTHER PEOPLES RIGHTS TO DO SO.

Where is this stated in the U.S. Constitution? Could you point it out to me?

A foetus gets killed. So what? Mind y our own business. It's not your foetus. And worse crimes happen in the world that nobody, ever, pays attention to.

Most people are capable of multi-tasking. Ya know, I can have problems with abortion, and still work to improve the education system in my city. I hear legislators do this every day. It's pretty impressive, no?

And btw, that foetus wouldn't be a foetus without my assistance in the matter. So actually, a part of it, without question, is "mine."

Children are raped in congo. Three year olds are being prostituted in the phillipines. Women are abused by their husbands and stay living in those conditions because they're afraid and somehow think they don't deserve a better life.

And?

What's a damn foetus, that hasn't even a clue that it's alive. Just smoke the fucker. Let's solve some real problems first.

Hopefully getting a clue is somewhere on that list of yours.