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Can I at least blame your lame ass jokes on Islam? How else is it you share the same sense of humor as those Danish Imams?

Rather then repeat myself, I'll just quote myself. Ask someone for help if you're confused.

Good, then the majority of the Middle Eastern Muslim world are living in sin, free of Jews or Christians amongst their communities. Like I said, not even moderate Muslims evoke those verses when dealing with the topic of Israel, or Bethlehem, which is now a Muslim city, or hell.....anywhere in the region.

Al Qaeda put an article on their website saying "yeah okay, so the Koran says Israel should belong to the Jews, but they don't deserve it, so there". Why should outsiders care more for what the Koran says then how the Koran is being practiced? I mean, it's your problem if the Koran is being defaced, it's only my problem if I'm the target of genocide, because of it.

Fuzzbot, you are a fundamentalist with some progressive views. Why should I dissassociate the clerics, Muslim outreach organizations, and religious scholars from their religion ? They would tell me you're the one practicing it wrong. Hell, I agree with you, simply because I like your interpretation better, but why should I dissassociate Muslim terrorism from the religion when they are the ones who make up the majority of Islamic leadership itself?

And yes, I would say Christian, and Jewish terrorism is just as bad... If it even existed on the level of Islamicist terror. I'm not defending Kahanist or Hilltop Youth, am I? They're both religious groups, just as Hamas is a religious group, once led by an Islamic cleric.

So again, when a Islamic suicide bomber reads from the Koran, and says all the reasons he feels justified in killing Jews, you're asking me to pretend he's not a Muslim ? Is there a special name I should be calling him? Because I'm sorry, he's not just a terrorist on par with the Weather Underground. Your argument is about as idiotic as asking us to seperate the White Militia aspect from Timothy Mcveighs case, or say, talk about the IRA and pretend there wasn't a religious component. Dream on.

Originally Posted by I,Fuzzbot.

They break too many rules that they may as well just consider themselves 'kafirs.'

They would say you're playing pocket Muhadith, and unfortunately, you have made your own interpretation politically irrelevant, due in part because you wish to distance yourself from the mess, which is a form of denial, not a solution.

What your thesis comes down to is a desperate desire for you to believe that there are no Muslim criminals, and this whole thing exists in the sensationalized head of bigots. You apparently don't even believe in the concept of an "Islamic Terorist". You're so out of touch it's hardly relevant what you think. You refuse to clean up the problem, or take responsibility, let alone even admit that there is an association between Islamic supremacists and ISLAM. The dominant religion in the Middle East IS Islam, so it's logical that the attrocious human rights conditions tolerated in the region are automatically associated with the Muslim religion. I know you'd like to believe these crimes aren't religiously motivated, but the unfortunate truth is they are, in large part, and the stories they use for inspiration are often about Mohammed himself. A great deal of people believe Religions are to blame for most of the wars and violence in the world, and there's a reason why, you dolt.