[mburbank]

But if we happened to invade Iran and made a huge mess out of it, failure would no longer be an option and we'd have to stay until they had a stable democracy up and running, right?

I don't think this current gang of fuck ups should be allowed to even toy with the idea. Donald Rumsfeld is still secretary of defense! Tennet has a medal of freedom around his neck! The current administration shouldn't have a drivers liscence, let alone control of the armed forces.

Part of the problem is that as an administration, they have no credability at all, so it's impossible to assess the current level of threat from Iran. The BEST slant you could take is that W as a CEO leader has consistently rewarded failure. If a bus plunge is unavoidable, I want a new driver first.