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Originally Posted by ziggytrix
But you are a bit off there. My distaste for arrogant "my side is ALWAYS right" lines of thought does not actually equate to wishing ill upon our country, and I think it's jsut the smallest bit absurd that you believe that.
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Refresh my memory, aren't you the one who constantly compares a suicide bobingin Iraq to a rare abortion clinic bombing in, I dunno, South Dakota???
I think your specific problem Ziggy is that you're paralyzed by history and what you perceive to be the great satan's role in this war. At least max acknowledges that we have a "very real enemy" in all of this. I'm not so sure about you, b/c every time it's mentioned that the terrorism we face is closely linked with radical Islam*, and Islamic nations*, and the Middle East*, and Arabs*, and basically Islam* as a whole, you seem to get a little uptight and start reminding us of the crusades ang gee guys, not all muslims are bad.
We know Ziggy, we know. Now let's have a grownup conversation about it.
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In my opinion (to which I believe I'm still entitled) what our enemies do is exactly as relevant as what we do. Deliberately targetting and killing innocents for whatever reason is terrible. Our enemies doing it certainly does not justify our doing of it, IF that's even happening (which I hope it isn't, but hope in one hand, right?)
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There's a sharp distinction between what we do and what thay do. What we MAY have done is criminal, and violates our laws, our mores, and our code of conduct.
This is the rule book they play by. I don't mean this as to say we should overlook the bad things our troops do, but once again.....perspective. We are at war, at war with a "very real enemy"!
Those two wars I mentioned with Max, ya know the ones that are nothing like this one and were far more important? Well we killed a lot of innocent people in one of them, and certainly didn't spare them in the Civil War.
Tell me, does Dresden make us wrong for fighting the fight we did?