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Originally Posted by Abcdxxxx
Well, your biggest confusion there is thinking Canaanites are Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims. The Canaanites are Canaanites, a seperate people entirely, who are pretty much extinct now. Both Canaanites and Jews preclude Islam by thousands of years. There were a few Jewish kingdoms, but wether or not they fullfill any prophecies, or biblical thoughts really has no place in a political conversation.
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Originally Posted by Courage the Cowardly Dog
Who was there first is a long and very religous debate. Although as I understand it in modern times in the 19th century Jews began to return and purchased some of the then useless land and began to settle it again, they created jobs and hence got many arabs who began to move in. This is also why Israel HAS to have checkpoints and not a zero tolerence fence because TO THIS DAY most of their workforce is Palestinian.
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It's actualy very clearly stated in the Koran, and logically one has to admit what it means when the Koran resurps passages of the first and second testaments. There were many other religions which "came first" but that's not so much the issue, unless someone tries to call Jews who are indegenous to the land "collonizers" or outsiders. Jews started returning to the land long before the 19th century, but you're very right in noting that along with the biggest Jewish influx also came a huge influx of Arabs too as the quality of life improved. |
Ask any Palestinian if they are Canaanite and they WILL tell you they are. Granted most Canaanitic people such as hittites and perrizites are now extinct many in fact most still exist.
Although I can't geneticly prove it, the idea that modern arabs of the Palestine/Jordan region are descended of Canaan son of Ham is taught in Palestinian primary schools in the region. Denying that would be like telling a jew they weren't descendent of Abaraham. They are taught from a young age that modern Arabs of that region are descendent of Canaan, Ishmael, Lot, and Abraham amongst others. Or so PBS's special last year has led me to believe.
My point regardles is the deeply held belief by BOTH parties of birthright to the land.
Also i must commend how extremely well read you are on the subject. It's rare to find people in thi line of conversation who are so thorough and historical, kudos.
Off topic: oddly enough Mormons claim black people are descendent of Canaan and used the Noahic curse to justify slavery. Which is Assanine and racist IMHO because if you do believe the Biblical genealogy (keep in mind I said IF) most african nations are descendent of Cush and Ham's other sons who had no curse and were given inheritence on the african continents.