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Old Jul 17th, 2006, 01:22 AM       
I might be crazy here but I think this has been known for a long time. The first thing I thought of when I read this thing was timothy leary, have any of you guys read his books? Beyond most of the drug talk his methods of diagnoses were pretty complex, which you'd think is necessary in any medical or psychological field. He had a sort of four dimensional diagnoses system.

he's also known for the 8th circuit model of consciousness, which not only combines jungian and freudian concepts, but expands on them in general, especially as far as jung goes. This scale also encompasses, along side the psychological 'circuit', the responses drugs can cause which are all sorted relative to their individual circuit. I.E. There's certain drugs that would be more useful treating anal or oral complex psychosis-which are the first two, and as you may or may not know are responsible for alot of your core behaviorisms.
The part where it actually gets interesting is actually after the fourth circuit, preceeded by the third or logic circuit, which is the socio-sexual circuit. After this it all becomes relative to spirituality and mind expansiveness. Some involving the ability to change your perception of reality at will and providing explainations of buddha, jesus etc. or so called enlightened states. The method is practically the same, and when compared with the '8-fold path' of buddhism or the 8 steps of yoga you find a slight similarity, and really any form of mind liberation from the natural confines of reality stems from this same basic concept-disassociating, attaining objectivity.

Personally I found DMT to be interesting(which there's plenty of studies on), especially in crystal form. 15 minutes of crazy hallucinations and extreme vibrations, it's hard to explain but most people can't walk, it becomes difficult to hold the pipe and everywhere you look is a hallucination, generally hallucinations involve intricate patterns and your thought process is usually very strange and mystical. Some people say they receive messages from aliens, and this is a pretty big complex that abounds. It's probably best known for inspiring alot of the art for tool, Alex Grey. The pictures are actually very good depictions of some of the things you can see.

Jimson weed/thorn apple/hell's bells is fun but too crazy, but everyone I've known who has taken it communed with devils or something similar, including me. Whereas I've only had faint exposure on dmt to something that could've been alien, I usually find it hard to fall into preconceived notions. With this though it flowed pretty effortlessly into a "Mythical experience". My dmt trip was also incredibly mystical, relatively.
In fact DMT has a long history of mystical usage among south america tribes, who supposedly have experiences nobody else can mimic. Jimson weed also has alot of usage, in europe as a "Witches brew" and in america by native americans, examples can be seen in Carlos canstenada's writings, which also details alot of peyote usage. His first time using peyote is hilarious. I think it's the teachings of don juan where he meets him and has his first peyote trips and meets "Mescalito", a pretty common mystical charicature.

Personally my favored experiences have been on DXM, the chemical inside of common over-the-counter cough syrup. Not because it's readily available, because mescaline, psilocybin and DMT are all pretty easily available as well. It's a disassociative experience, to say the least.
The first few times I did it I drank one bottle of 8oz bottle of 15mg active DXM(Only DXM, nothing else as some of them can be extremely fatal in large dosages) robitussin, or a 4oz bottle of vicks 44 30mg active dose. Of course, as a precursor to it you shouldn't eat for a while, never be on a full stomach on it(or any other drug that I've discussed, really). One eight ounce bottle will fuck you up, and it will probably be the most hallucinatory experience you'll ever have. The visuals are known as close-eye visuals, so they sort of mimic dreams in a sense, as such it's best to do it at night with no light, and maybe some good music. The trip also lasts all night(like many others) and involves you not moving usually. Characterized by almost OBE/astral type trips at high doses. You really can feel your body moving around as responding to your hallucination, I think it's because it's an opiate so it numbs your physical body.
I can't explain the experience, but just make sure you haven't been doing anything too habitual, too much routine for too long can make your trip part of that routine. It's a boring waste. One 4oz bottle is good, but two is better, but naturally start slow. There's also pure dxm available. Not that I'm reccomending you do any drugs, just talking about the experience.


Anyway, this article is ridiculous. Timothy leary and a TON of other scientists, doctors, journalists etc. have been doing studies on this shit forever, and they have a long history of indeginous usage. Dr. John C. Lilly is another name, who wrote programming in the biohuman computer or something like that. Aleister Crowley is very popular for similar experiences as well, and you could say in some instances it's the crux of his experiments.

Timothy leary's experiments were legitimate, most of these drugs were legal for a long time, and don't forget Timothy Leary was a DOCTOR. Most people claim he was a Political prisoner, and sweeden even had him released as one. I believe the claim was that, amidst all the "dangerous man in the world"(dangerous because of his science of disassociating) he was arrested for having a joint, and held in prison for a long time, but that's not really that relevant, or what happened to Wilhelm Reich(even if he was a bit of a quack genius sort). I guess the point there is that the government smeared him for his work, because they thought the idea of it was dangerous.

Speaking of which a similar charicature is Hassan-I-sabbah who supposedly used marijuana to brainwash(or liberate/empower, depending on interpretation) infamous assassins.
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