[kahljorn]

"and kahl, you're really close to buying into ID."

What are you talking about? I don't think anybody ever argued that evolution wasn't intelligent. Not only is there evolution but there's a vast scientific body, and I can't think of a single part of it that's incomplex and unintelligent. You know, they do have scientists working on this shit. Those scientists are usually pretty smart, and they usually solve some mysteries.