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Originally Posted by kahljorn
If you read the very first section of revelations you get the idea that what it's revealing is going to happen immediately. As such what he's really revealing is the consequences of actions that have been commited in the present and past. That's probably where most people get the idea that revelations was a "prophecy" of Jesus' death or something(with the antichrist being nero or other political figures etc.).
It's similar to going, "Hey look guys the world's in a shitty position now and more specificaly in a shitty position towards you so um i think you guys are screwed".
I don't really know though I'm just debating superficially.
You know speaking of which I was reading genesis the other day and noticed that the reason adam and eve were kicked out of the garden of eden was because God was prideful(or jealous/selfish) that if humans ate the tree of knowledge again they would become "Like us(Serpent and God?), Immortals."
I like that the jewish god calls himself 'I am that i am', if that's indeed what they call him. Sounds so ambigous like a god should be.
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well first of all the first few chpaters of revalation aren't prophecy, they are advice to individual churches, the prophecy doesn't start until after the that. Also only one of those churches was realy persecuted cause at the time the churches where protected under roman law as a branch of judaism and therefor exempt from having to worship pagan gods
Second God said man would be like us knowing good and evil (therefor having a responsibility and being higher than animals) They were kicked out cause they disobeyed God when he told them "don't f*** yourself over, please" and they disobeyed.