[kahljorn]

"IF war is, indeed, as you say, occurring from within conflict, Peace... it's opposite, must actually be born from a convergence of self interest. "

"so I suppose peace would occur when all people's interest are the same."

i don't know i feel the bases are already covered as to your three posts.

Why do you repeat what I say as a response? Three posts of you repeating what I said.


Also what do you guys think of the natural world side of this you know, the beasts. Always look to the beast. Would you call them, "At war"? Would you call them, "At peace"? I don't want to make it sound black and white i just wanted to throw that out there. Peace is a complicated subject, especially if you consider political and economic disease and instability, "Conflicts of interests". "The war on drugs" "Gay people can't get married" etc.
Really I wonder whether or not war is a natural process of the human enviroment and if it can even be overcome. If it could be acheived in any meaningful state beyond absence of physical shooting wars then it would clearly require a melding of interests of some sort. Even in physical wars, the interests of those involved decide the outcome. For peace to arise from a war it's necessary for there to be a truce or a "Merging of interests".
Yes, war can be a tool of "Peace" by eliminating the opposition to your interest and destroying their interest. Interest of course is very variable and can be shifted according to circumstances, sometimes interests can in themselves be opposing. The "Peace" gained through physical war can cause angst and unhappiness which could be considered "Unpeaceful".

Also I have to agree that nonphysical violence is basically what peace is in a physical sense because that's basically what a truce or compromise is, but I don't see how that creates peace. Absenceof war and but still having absolutely horid life circumstance like i don't know maybe hell most people wouldn't choose hell over a war you see so obviously "Peace" must be more important than the opposite of "War", or a new word would need to be used. At the least everything in this entire thread has been repeated seven times.