[Geggy]

Originally Posted by El Blanco

I'm calling you an asshole. How about that?

And I've done atleast as much research as you because I read the shit you post and link to. Am I qualified to call you an asshole?

Tens of qualified government insiders are questioning 9/11...are they assholes, too? What about hundreds of those involved the family commitee for 9/11 truth, who spend more time researching and asking questions what had happened to their loved ones to this day than anyone ever have...Are they all assholes, as well? Theyve never received media attention, not even from oprah, instead the controlled media cherry pick theorists who advocate the most outlandish theories and give them public exposures to play it safe.

Holy cow. The vast majority of Americans think politicians lie. Wooooo. Boy, you could have knocked me over with a feather after that revelation.

If you want to continue to cling on the "intelligence failure" theory, that's fine with me. I'm willing to look past the "intelligence failure" smokescreen that's blowing out of their asses and see through their lies fabricated for the reason to create an innocuous image of themselves.

That may well be one of the saddest things I've ever read. Please tell me he is not learning is reasoning skills from you.

She's a she and someday when she start to understand, I will tell her that politicians lie and always question them. And to never fall for the right-left paradigm bullshit. That's it. No offense to anyone in here.

I'm just curious, because you've never really answered this question.

What story do you buy?

My primrary point is that I don't buy the osama and the 19 hijackers story. That's the point of renewing an investigation into 9/11 to find out what's the deal here. But I know that will never happen. I'm only trying to open your eyes to the kind of people that we are dealing with. The 300 plus paged patriot act was already introduced to the congress in a week after the attack took place. People were fear-strucked at the time, and were willing to give up their civil liberties and freedom to have the patriot act and the homeland terror chart implemented. There were other patterns that bugged me out, as wll.

And that is part of the problem. You've already decided and there is no reasoning with you. People read your shit (or the shit others write that you post), disect it, point out the flaws, and you just act like a condescending prick who is so much smarter than all these "intellectually dishonest" morons.

This part had me laughing the hardest.

Unfortunatly, its all an illusion.

I truly wish you were right about that.

Cut and pasting the work of others without actually reading it or following the citations is not research. Have you actually gone through trade publications of actual engineers, law enbforcement officials and people who in this reality qualify as experts? No. You copy the work of philosphy professors and ham radio operators and accept that as the truth (and no I won't capitolize it).

Not just copy and paste articles, videos too.

Again, what story do you buy?

It's not the matter of what story I buy into. It's what I believe, that the us govt had a hand in the conspiracy.

No, they may have slipped past a few law enforcement officials and the airport security screeners.

Atta had a criminal record while residing in germany and it was already known to the FBI he was connected to al-qaeda after discovering he had purchased bomb compounds and materials. He was under survillience by the CIA until he entered the US. He slipped through the INS when entering the US. An army intelligence unit uncovered al-qaeda spot in brooklyn where Atta was staying. Get that? According to the official story, the 72 virgins must have been watching over his shoulders, waiting for a good fuck.

Whose defenses are pointed outwards

The CIA and the FBI knew the hijackers were taking up pilot training inside the US. It was discovered that al-qaeda members were learning to fly planes in aviation schools in phoenix, arizona and florida, yet the request for further investigation had been thwarted and no actions were taken. Even the Israeli spies handed in list of names of the 4 hijackers to the pentagon. All of this was before 9/11.

such as?

Such as Atta taking a flight from portland, maine to boston on the morning of 9/11, nearly missing the flight taking off from boston. Buying flight tickets scheduled for the day online using credit cards under their real names. These little things.

And just how long have you studied law enforcement and counter terrorism?

Do you know who Carlos Illyich Ramirez is?

Do you know who whitey bulger is? He had a brother who was the president of the massachusetts state senate.

As do I. but, I know that they are still human and no system that utilizes human beings is fool proof.

If you do a research on why they failed, you will see that it was all planned.

You don't even know the proper procedures.

How would you know?

The mindset that it couldn't happen here?

The Bojinka plot to hijack planes and crash into US buildings that was foiled in 1995 was already known to CIA and FBI. Doesn't that tell you anything?

I'm sure it could have too. But what steps would have been neccassery to do so and would you be willing to see them implemented?

If they were given warrants, in which they have never received.

You mean "the official story that best fits the evidence presented".

Recently, Thomas kean called the 9/11 report a first draft.

1) Ummmmm........they didn't really cover it up. They tried, but obviously, it didn't work out too well.

It was covered up for 10 years. Why all the media attention and sensational hype about it now...that if it hasn't blown over yet? I'm asking because I haven't been paying attention. I'm more concerned about the other things that's going on than some pervert asking to play hide the sausage with underage boys. That kind of issue pales in comparisions to other current events. One of the reasons for me to question why the hell did it receive so much spotlight?

You don't think the sheer scale of an operation like faking 9/11 would make the two instances a little different? You don't think that maybe it would require a lot more people involved?

After looking at how it was possible for the US govt to pull it off, it could not have been more than 10 people involved, excluding the soveriegnity govt.

The Foley scandal requires cooperation from what? Maybe 2 dozen people? A few other congressmen and their top aides? Most people knew he was gay, but only the inner circle had to know he was jonesing for underage boys.

And even that got blown up.

Remember few days before the story got blown up, the heat turned up for rice about the july 10 warning from tenet and it was getting media attention yet it was esclipsed by the sex scandal when the media chased after that story because it was more exciting? Now I wonder if that was planned.