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Originally Posted by mburbank
I don't know where I'd say they fall on the human/not human argument. I think they are probably all too human.
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See, this is why I love arguing with you, Max. You are so bitter and hateful, it's cute. Normally, thinking such bad thoughts all the time makes people into monsters, but you have a way of wearing extreme cynicism like a teddy bear suit. What makes it even better is that I KNOW you mean it!
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Originally Posted by mburbank
I also think, historically speaking, groups of people deciding other groups of people are less than human has never turned out very well. Case in point, the beheaders think we are infidels, which makes us less than human and suceptable to beheading.
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But then, you also have a bad habit of avoiding the moral argument. This is a dangerous place for you to be, and I like you so much I'm gonna tell you why: On one hand, your viewpoint is passing negative moral judgement on EVERYBODY... you can call it realism or whatever you want, but what you are doing is most definitely and unavoidably judgement. We all SUCK, just some more than others, so the best thing to do is baby-proof the world so nobody gets hurt.
The problem is that when you choose to equivicate some random, destructive morality with any other morality... like you just did when you said that beheading for them is the same as how or why we fight them... you include your own moral code with the whole illogical mess. You negate your own viewpoint. Nobody's gonna respect your moral viewpoint when you say that all moral viewpoints, even your own, are meaningless. That's not even a real statement!