[kahljorn]

big papa goat that's completely ignoring any type of relativity. I wouldn't dare to say that wars wouldn't have happened without the church, but then on the same token I wouldn't say they didn't kindle the fire or get everyone riled up. Regardless of if they condemned anyone to death, they still gave publicity/morale speaches about killing unholy invaders to people who may or may not have felt like killing was bad. Again as i stated before the church would often tell them that killing unholy invaders is not wrong and it's a service to god, which is basically an excuse to kill. A justification, if you will. That has some type of effect, especially in a culture where believing in God is a big deal.
What's important in nazi germany is not important in all times. Furthermore I stated that blind, emotivated following of whether a church or a politicized power are pretty much the same things when it comes down to morality(or call it deception instead of immoral i guess). Similar to the Machiavelli thing, i suppose.
Not only that but since nazi germany was "Atheist" why would religion even be an issue? A NON RELIGOUS STATE BEING NON RELIGOUS? WHAT THE FUCK'S GOING ON?

I keep wanting to talk about beyond good and evil and how "evil" the church was because they were powerless but still had some control over the minds/psychologies of their believers.