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Old Jan 5th, 2007, 05:48 AM       
I didn't say justice was kantian that's why I used an extra paragraph/enter-space to break them apart.

Kant did say something about treating people according to their own will, though, didn't he?
Well that depends on what type of theft it is. Obviously, if a thief stole a diamond you could possibly get the diamond back. Also, considering he was acting in "Self-interest" you could say that jail is going against his self-interest, but is in others self-interest.
Same could be said for jaywalking i guess. I don't really consider jaywalking a "crime" though.
Also, you can't steal from a thief but you can charge him money or sell his house to pay for fines(that's kind of like stealing), make him work it off, or put him in jail for a certain amount of time. It's hard to make money if you're in jail, and that's basically stealing time from a persons life.
It costs time to earn money to buy things with money and would therefore have a "Time" value to them; if "Things" are stolen you are also stealing time. Of course that could be variable and is too confusing because who knows how much time they spent earning the money.

I guess they are entangled because it sucks to die if you haven't done anything wrong or something-- not very "Fair". I think it's, generally, much better to kill someone who is "Bad" then to let someone who is "Good" die at the hands of the "Bad"; at the "Goods" expense and the "Bads" profit and leisure/escape.
I might consider it to be slightly different if it's a "crime of passion"; as in commited by someone you know, possibly because of your own actions.

This kind of steps away from the Super Bullets portion of this, though, but I guess you can maim someone then shoot them in the head.
Which reminds me, if you use a normal gun, and the person is out to kill you, if you just maim them there's a chance they could still kill you in that moment.
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