[Jeanette X]

Originally Posted by kahljorn

I'll start with this since it is t he most important:
Okay but what I have said in probably at least ten posts on this subject is that instead of changing the law so that they can get married why not change the law so that they can get those benefits? The critically injured for example already has a modern solution in many states: a living will or advanced directive.

Why wade through the legal labyrinth of changing all the laws that pertain to married couples to also cover same-sex unions when merely changing the marriage law itself would take care of the problem?

How come the rate of marriages has decreased? How come the age of marrying has increased? How come the children born ou tof wed-lock has increased?

Fewer people feel the social pressure that they once did to get married. Is it so bad that people are marrying out of personal choice rather than social pressure? And is it so bad that single women have chosen to have babies on their own without the social pressure of marriage? Isn't this a matter of changing perceptions regarding marriage allowing individuals to make their own choices on their own terms without being ostracized?

All men are created equal does not mean everybody gets any priveledge they want exactly how they want it. The fact is, gay men have just as much of a right to marry a woman as anybody else.

And you have every right to marry a man (I assume you are a man) in the state of Massachusetts, so what would you care if I took away your right to marry a woman?

They are worrying about themselves. They are worrying about the meaning of their marriage.

If a person's marriage was so weak to begin with that a gay or interracial couple getting married destroyed it, then perhaps that person wasn't meant for marriage to begin with.

Furthmore that's the stupidest shit I've ever heard. If someone were raping and then killing somebody next door shouldn't you not mind your own business and call the cops?

There's a huge difference between rape and murder and consensual sex between adults.

Where in the bible does it say that you should let sinners continue to sin because god's going to deal with them? Cause actually im pretty sure it says you should cast gay people/other sinners out of your society and or kill the fuck out of them.

I'm quite sure it doesn't. Unless you want to start quote mining from the Old Testament, which as I recall, also prohibits the consumption of pork and shellfish. Do you want to cast lobstermen out of society and/or kill the fuck out them too?

So it's not just about the gays it's about themsleves. I think that's why people usually bring up sadom and gammorha. Because that was a city that didn't obey god's rules and was punished for it.

If you read the Bible, you will find that Gd agreed to spare the city if ten good people were found. Yet there weren't even ten there. Do you think that there are fewer than ten good people in any of our cities?

But it says all over the bible that societies that don't obey god's will will be fucked by god.

By that reasoning we should demolish the Buddhist temples for idolatry. Do you think that is a good idea?

And hi, Glowbelly.