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Originally Posted by VinceZeb
Please, don't even try to start shit with me when it comes to faith and religion. I guarentee I will drive you into the fucking ground.
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Arguing for the existence of God as the prime mover will eventually lead to the question of what created God, then what created THAT entity, ad infintum. It's a faith based argument that can never be proved. Those that argue for the Big Bang say it was preceded by a Big Crunch, and that it precedes in this way in an endless series of entropy increase/decreae and/or energy increase/decrease in no particular order. Currently scientists believe we're in the point of the cycle that favors loss of entropy. When you get to that level of infinity in science, you're also faced with an argument that's based on man's faith in his logical acumen. So that too cannot be solved by a purely empirical, methodological approach. It's more metaphysical. So again, you're at a dead end. I think that the best approach at this point is a reconciliation of the two approached taking from each that which seems to logically fit AND which we can faithfully believe in without taking anything away from either. It can be done.
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Originally Posted by VinceZeb
And in China, a man found a tale about the flood from a group of Chinese tribes (that were seperated from the Chinese people) that had a flood story almost EXACTLY like the one in the Torah.
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That reminds me of the old intelligence-check riddle that goes "If a plane crashes in the ocean killing everyone on board, how many surivors were there to tell the story?". Methinks you take the Bible a bit too literally.