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Originally Posted by Doopa
oh max I hope you don't think any less of me for the following biased generalization but...
godamnit I fucking hate people from Connecticut!
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I speak on behalf of jamesman as well when I say;
HEY!
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This thread has become an arguement rather than discussion. It's the lack of diplomatic resolutions that create racism. I'm not saying that all people should be the same, free will is what makes life so great as well as what makes the lives of those without free will so horrid.
Example, in Japan there is a class system. There is one here but (i dunno how to explain it, but) it's not physically there, but rather an idea. So in Japan, marrying a lower class person is forbidden, strictly. There have been countless stories of couples from different classes who's families have threatened to never speak to them again if married, and the couples commit suicide. Without free will, life is a real drag.
But some people take free will as an excuse to acting immoral. Even though it makes life better in most ways, almost complete free will is degrading our society. People are taking free will as an excuse rather than a right. I think people should not be allowed to do some of the things they do (i.e. gangs and stuff) because it may make them happy, but degrade our world slowly. In China people's morals and ethics are based of the ideal of thinking of the "group over yourself". And because of this predictions say they will overpower the USA (military-wise [I made that word up]) in 50 years or so. So no, free will is not always good. Racism should be a means of free will, though using it in violent and unethical acts should not be. Discussing it as we are now is ok.