
Jun 24th, 2003, 02:56 PM
kevin - "This is a completely sensationalized statement. This is why there will never EVER be peace, not while arguments like this are made. There can be no compromise. Every Palestinian is a rotten Arab terrorist, Israel is never in the wrong, EVER, and the only peace will be a full relocation of Palestinians into all of those other "Arab muslim countries." I mean, "they've" already got like 12 of them, right? "
actually, they've got 21, and a whole mess of unused land. Secondly, it's not sensationalized when the Palestinian population majority and their community groups, along with it's governing officials have stated this as a goal. Would you like quotes? When Palestinians became a political movement it was always tied in to a dream for pushing all the Jews into the ocean. There has never been a period of time when the creation of a Palestinian state didn't come with a promise of a Jewish holocaust. I'm not saying Palestinians need to be reolocated for peace to occur....you're brain dead if that's what you're reading... I'm saying the relocation should have occured during 1948, or 1967, or at some point, and that Palestinian Arabs have had MANY oppurtunities to settle on land OTHER then Tel Aviv. I'm not calling for relocation, but I'm saying it's an option Jews do not have. Get it?
What comprimise has anyone asked from the Palestinians? To stop killing? How is that a comprimise?
Kevin - "You have NO IDEA how much I support Israel and her quest for peace and security, but whenever I talk to extremists like yourself, I quickly remember that peace can never be. You don't want a solution, you want the same thing Hamas wants-- complete annihilation."
Pretty funny. You're a scary kid. As long as you convey that viewpoints like mine are that of an extremists, comparable to Hamas, you're doing more harm then good. Once again, you're real, real confused what an extremist viewpoint in Israel even is. Go ahead and quote something I've said that conveys my supposed Hamas like dream to "annihilate them all". How many times must I use the word coexistance before you actually read it?
kevin - "NEWS FLASH: THEY WANT THEIR OWN STATE, AND THEY WANT IT TO BE WHERE THEY FEEL IS HOME, MUCH LIKE JEWS IN THE 1ST HALF OF THE CENTURY DIDN'T WANT TO LIVE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF FUCKING AFRICA. "
News flash - they never had a state, there was never a seperate Arab ruled state called Palestine EVER. There was never a seperate language, border or culture defining an Arab majority Palestine segregated of Jews and Christians... and whatever need there was for an Arab state carved into that land was meant to be served through the creation of Jordan. It's revitionist fiction to say otherwise. Palestinians left their land, or sold it, as a result of a war forced on Israel at it's infancy. At it's outset, Egypt and Jordan occupied the land that is now in dispute today. So fine, give them Gaza if they want it.
Palestinian Arabs HAVE been mistreated, but they have also been given oppurtunities for autonomy, and coexistance and it's misguided to blame Jews or Israel for the entirety of their plight. Unless maybe you take the lazy and bigoted stance of saying "of course it's the fault of the Jews, without them we wouldn't have a problem!"....which would in fact make YOU an extremist. Oh and what can we say of someone who offers blind support for a movement CENTERING around institutionalized racism, and Holocaust denial, along with the premeditate violence against civilians based solely on their Jewishness?
KEvin -"I'm certain that many don't want that, and that many want them to just "go away."
You're certainty doesn't match the polls within Israel. The problem is there is no true definition of what a Palestinian is, so if some guy moved to Gaza last year from Egypt, and joined up with Hamas, then why should they be granted citizenship? Meanwhile, Israel HAS paid reparations, and offered a home to a large amount of Arabs. Since you claim to care for the security and livelyhood of an Israeli state, then I ask when will it be time to put a foot down and realize appeasement has never brought peace????
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