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Originally Posted by The_Rorschach

An opinion based upon partial information and half truths is void of any value, and certainly not worth sharing.

Why? Because my opinion doesn't agree with yours? A good essay, one which received an "A" as mine did, covers both sides of an issue. There are good things to be said about the man, just not on what I've read about his personal life.

Originally Posted by The_Rorschach

Really? I don't recall saying anything of the sort.

I never hinted at, nor expressly said, he did so altruistically. That was your interpretation. Your strike is a foul ball.

I'm not going to bother to quote the parts but anyone reading what you've been typing can see that that is what you were implying.

Originally Posted by The_Rorschach

I've never believed the ends justify the means, I the opposite as it happens: The means justify the end, which is why I am so concerned with the observation of law in all things.

And we all know that Henry did things lawfully. That was MY point.

Originally Posted by The_Rorschach

So you're a socialist. Does that mean you don't believe banks shouldn't have guards? Security Personal should be fired and United States Servicemen positioned in their place? If we follow your logic far enough, what we'll have is a Orwellian Oligarchy.

No, I just don't believe that ex-con thugs masquerading as security guards should be HIRED. Although some of my views lean a little left, I would hardly consider myself a socialist. My idea that the police can be used in such situations are neither socialist nor is it conjecture on my part. Police are called in recent times, such as the strike at the Detroit Free Press, for security of the premises and riot control. If a situation is beyond what the local police can handle, I imagine that the state militia may be used. That was conjecture on my part.

Originally Posted by The_Rorschach

No actually he didn't. The line is crossed when beliefs translate into actions. Read the US Constitution, which as defined by the US Supreme Court holds a citizen is able "to state a preference in every field of endeavour, and as long as that document is law of the land, no one can stop him." Marx might agree with you, but I certainly don't.

OK, if we're splitting hair over the definition you're right. He has every right to speak/print on the matter. The reason he didn't qualify for racism is that he probably didn't knowingly hire Jewish people ... so he couldn't very well abuse them. Of course, the decision to hire whoever he wants is his as well so I can't make an argument on that point either. That still doesn't make him any less an ass.

Originally Posted by The_Rorschach

So you are no longer merely a man with an opinion, but an expert who can learn nothing further on this topic. I see.

No. What it means is that I've read histories/autobiographies that both share and oppose your views and the overwhelming majority of what I've read (and that makes reasonable sense to me) side with the opinion of that I've adopted. That doesn't mean that I don't have an open mind. What it means is that you haven't given me anything more convincing than what I've read that forms my current opinion. Since you can't argue the case with anything more civil (a la Vince) or convincing, I'd rather not debate the issue an further.

Originally Posted by The_Rorschach

Actually, my statement had to do with his concern for a quality product not his feats in aeronomics. I believe this strike is also a foul, and I won't wait for four.

BS. You wanted to "WOW!" whoever was reading into some brand of nationalism to show what a great guy he was in contributing to the war effort even though it conflicted with his views. MY point was their was much more substantial contributions from companies that DID believe in our side AND contributed to the war effort.

Originally Posted by The_Rorschach

Two is enough, after this post I'm walking. You aren't worth the air that fills your lungs, let alone my attentions, as you cannot even follow a simple post without interjecting your own ungrounded thoughts into it. If you consider my disdain your victory, then I can only hope you enjoy it.

Your posts have been filles with nothing BUT your opinions and thoughts along with Vince-like name-calling. I'm suprised that you didn't throw some "Yo mama!" comments in for good measure. You'd said nothing intelligent nor presented no legitimate sources or even quotes to make me even think about changing my current opinion (which you probably don't care about anyway). Any time that I've addresses a specific point you either blew my statement out of proportion or threw in a red herring to divert attention. Yeah, THAT'S good debatin'