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"Jews can make claim to that land, just not sole claim."

If you're suggesting the majority of Jews do make sole claim to the land then you're backwards. The mosques are highly respected,.

Aren't Palestinian Arabs the ones making a sole claim to holy sites, and requesting the actual removal of Jews from land? Haven't they been the ones digging under the Temple Mount encouraging it's collapse, and desecrating religious tombs? Prior to Israel the wailing wall was used as a toilet. Christian holy sites were inaccesible. There was no respect for archealogical history or the freedom of other cultures. The Palestinian movement makes sole claim and demands the removal of all Jews from Gaza and the West Bank. I've never heard of any mainstream movement to remove the Arabs of Haifa, or Tel Aviv. Certainly not one that's ever made it's way to the bargaining table.


"If an Israeli breaks the law, steals a car, shoots a civilian, there is a code of law which to punish him/her by. The Palestinians don't have this, but they want this"

Huh? Palestinians seceded from Israel and became an autonomous body with an interim self government, it's own CIA trained police force, and legal system. Hey it's a shitty one, but it's theirs. If they have the ability to offer a cease fire as a bargaining chip, they should have the ability to hold forth to it, dontcha think? Unlike Hamid Karzai, the PA pulls the purse strings for all these so called "militants", and all roads lead back to the government. The chaos is organized, and controlled. if they can string up those caught collaborating with Israel crucifiction style , they could in theory take the same hardline stance against "militants" right?

From the CIA factbook:

The Israel-PLO Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government Arrangements (the DOP), signed in Washington on 13 September 1993, provided for a transitional period not exceeding five years of Palestinian interim self-government in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. Under the DOP, Israel agreed to transfer certain powers and responsibilities to the Palestinian Authority, which includes the Palestinian Legislative Council elected in January 1996, as part of the interim self-governing arrangements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. A transfer of powers and responsibilities for the Gaza Strip and Jericho took place pursuant to the Israel-PLO 4 May 1994 Cairo Agreement on the Gaza Strip and the Jericho Area and in additional areas of the West Bank pursuant to the Israel-PLO 28 September 1995 Interim Agreement, the Israel-PLO 15 January 1997 Protocol Concerning Redeployment in Hebron, the Israel-PLO 23 October 1998 Wye River Memorandum, and the 4 September 1999 Sharm el-Sheikh Agreement.


"On your question of viability, I see ANYTHING as progress between these two factions. "

Really? So how is the potential release of mass murderers going to further peace? Or continuance of violence after a declared cease fire? PEACE!!! A word meaning: harmonius relations, security and order, and the absence of war or other hostilities. Progress doesn't mean things aren't getting progressively worse.

"What you want is fiction, and can only lead to further stagnation and conflict. You want war."

My Perception of the continued violence as an act of war doesn't mean It's something I "want". It's already is a war, and one side has it's arms tied while the other keeps taking cheap shots.

Feel free to justify your above statement somehow otherwise you're just pigeon holding anyone who fully supports Israel as war mongering, and that's just antisemetic. It's antisemetic because your talking about Jews with a double standard, along with a biased and unproven accusation of exclusionary behavior towards non-Jews that plays into old blood libels. I want coexistance. I've said this many times. I'm sure it's easier to debate me when you're telling me what I'm supposed to think but try reading my words and work from there instead. Coexistance.