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Originally Posted by Sethomas
I wasn't alluding to Scripture AFTER Christ. I was simply saying that there may have been EXISTING gospels that did not agree with his agenda
Learn your vocabulary dude. In Christianity, a "gospel" is a narrative on the life of Christ. Therefore, THERE WERE NO EXISTING GOSPELS BEFORE CHRIST.
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My vocabulary is fine. I was talking about GOSPELS written about Christ during his life that survived up to the point of Constantine's reign.
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Originally Posted by Sethomas
You're neglecting the fact that there was roughly a 500 year period between the period when these miracles allegedyly took place, and to me it's actually remarkable how much scripture survived through the bottleneck of centuries of oral history. Keep in mind that the first people to actually write down the Old Testament were the Alexandrian Greeks in the middle of the third century BC.
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So why did THOSE particular parts survive? Is it truly miraculous or were they chosen for an intended purpose? Your point about the oral history is interesting, though. You accept everything everything that was told orally through the ages that was later written down in the Old Testament as fact but other things that were told down through the ages (some of which people had painstakingly coded into music, art and literature so they wouldn't be lost to posterity) as false. I truly don't see what makes one or the other more valid to you. Who confirmed that they WERE more valid. Constantine? The Holy Roman Church? Members of the "Council Of Nicea". THAT was my point.
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Originally Posted by Sethomas
Okay, it's nice how you jump from talking about the weather of the Gobi desert to the price of oranges in Florida. We've all seen the movie Dogma, dude, so don't think you're shocking anyone. If you ask me, it makes perfect sense to say that Jesus studied Torah and built furniture for all those years.
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I'm not trying to shock anyone and I've never seen "Dogma". It's always been a question that stuck out in my mind. Don't you find it curious that a large chunk of his life is missed in the telling? Aren't you curious? I'm not trying to detract from Jesus accomplishments. I'm merely asking why, especially since his religious philisophy is somewhat different than that of the Old Testament. What were his influences that made him lean that way.
P.S. Don't get angry with me because you've had the same questions. I'm only asking.