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Okay Zukhov, I told you to come back once you were qualified to discuss it...spending an hour on google checking up on antisemetic rhetoric to protect whatever Socialist wet dream you have doesn't cut it. I don't have time to answer in full.... but I'll say this much, a good portion of Israel was founded by card carrying members of the Communist party, with roots linking them to the very beginnings of the movement. While the current wave of Socialist dopes like yourself might like to distance themselves, or discredit how legit a left leaning Zionist was , in order to feel like you're still down with the "oppressed" and "downtrodden", there is no difference between Socialist Zionism, or Zionist Socialism. In fact, you didn't even know it existed until It was pointed out to you on this board. You can't decide if you want to claim they weren't good Socialists, or that they weren't Socialists at all. Meanwhile, it's suspect of you to Argue their integrity when you've already demonstrated an inability to comprehend how something like Marxist theory could every apply to Jews, or those with Nationalistic tendencies. Let's remember that slighting Jews for being "nationalistic" is the original basis for antisemetism itself. How does Socialist poster boy Fidel Castro fair under such scrutiny? Or h'bout we get real here, because Karl Marx himself wasn't much of a Marxist if you weigh him against his realized ideals. Since you're simple minded, I'll spell it out... their key involvement and inspiration from working within the Socialist movement itself was enough of a basis to have influence on the creation of a Jewish State.

A Kibbutz where Israeli citizens live off land provided by the State, while sharing the duties of raising each others children comes from real Socialist ideals, and might very well be the best example of these theories in practice today.

"Socialist Zionist parties still did not 'invent' Zionism. "

Zionism's initial foundations were based on the influences of Socialist principles. Moses Hess was a founding father of Revolutionary Socialism in Germany, he was one of the firsts, if not the first, to promote Marx, and he penned the book that would go on to inspire the Zionist movement.