[Tadao]

Because FatDan won't shut up.

Originally Posted by Tadao

you can't have a good time listening to punk

Originally Posted by BatDan

are you sure?

The Clash - White Riot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7TUI_IVLCI
Elvis Costello - Pump it Up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-xDVInEolc
The Undertones - Get Over You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Axli2C5ew
The Jam - In the City
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ipGhzrIi3s

Originally Posted by Tadao

You call that crapfest fun? I suppose listening to babies cry is a great way to spend the afternoon as well.

Originally Posted by Fathom Zero

I dunno I'd even say the Clash or Elvis Costello are punk. At least, they're not the first I'd think of.

Originally Posted by BatDan

well that's probably because alot people forgot what real punk is, everything from the mid 80s up to the 00s killed punk in my opinion.

and also Elvis and Clash transcend the punk genre by experiementing with different styles, but they were still true innovators, they had the DIY and in your face attitude, a social and political conscience, they spoke the truth, and above all they created their own unique sound.

EDIT:
"You call that crapfest fun? I suppose listening to babies cry is a great way to spend the afternoon as well".

what's your idea of 'fun' music?

There hasnt been music fun music in a looong time, then again, i hear Lady Gaga and Jonas Brothers are just true inspiring artists, that have a strong intelligent influence on our modern youth and society.

i feel a juicy debate coming on..