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Originally Posted by Zhukov
Ah, well, here you are incorrectly attributing class to wealth, rather than ones relation to productive forces, regardless of the type of society. If a worker at a steel mill - part of the working class
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I don't believe in the term "working class". Everyone who is not an Investment banker or insurance parasite is "working class". I'm talking about Lower - Middle - and upper middle class.
All of these can be attributed to the living standard of the individual. If you're a steel working or a phone receptionist and both are making 40,000 to 70,000 a year.....Your both middle class.
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Originally Posted by Zhukov
You said that the non-existence of unions also equals the non-existence of a middle class. Even going on your incorrect assumption that wealth equals class, a middle class can still exist; people can still be wealthy and not belong to a union.
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True,
A very small amount of people can be wealthy without any labor organization. You're correct.
A very, very ,very small amount of people can have all the wealth while the laborers with NO representation can continue to have their living standards slashed.
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Seriously, list 20 banks that have been shut this last week. Don't make me go looking for your answers.
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I can't think for you. You're going to have to be a big boy and do it yourself.
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Originally Posted by Zhukov
Ok, so you have to 'double the number'... .
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Everyone knows that the government always finds ways to manipulate the unemployment figures. I don't know how old you are....probably very young seeing how feckless you are.....but in big boy land the unemployment numbers are always wrong and "discouraged workers" who don't show up anymore to collect their benefits get taken off the lists for unemployment payments.
Common sense. blatant reality. you have the internet. use it.