Ozone hole is bigger than it has ever been

[CaptainBubba]

Originally Posted by KevinTheHerbivore

.....Right, but most global warming theorists acknowledge that our earth's history is one of fluctuating trends. Those scientists you call "stupid" comprise a large portion of the global scientific community. This community agrees that while heating trends have happened, this one is probably being sped up by our own practices..

So theres a large part of the global scientific community that things temp. doesn't fluctuate? I don't think thats what you meant to say but re-read my statement on what would be stupid to think. I'm pretty sure the concensus in the scientific community is that we're responsible for at best 1% of the heating/ozone deteriorating.

So? The Rockefellers and the DuPonts invested in bullshit eugenic research, but some good stuff actually came out of that Malthusian madness. Your conspiracy theory about an international plot of greedy scientists seems to be a bit of a stretch, however. :/

Slander! But no, seriously, how can the idea of people raising worry about an enviromental problem to get funding not be beleivable? If they (The scientific community) one day said, "Ok, global warmings not really a big deal and neither is the ozone layer. I guess we'll get back to studying trees", do you think they would still get the same amount of funding they currently do? They benifit by convincing people theres a problem. This can't be denied.

The indicators of a warming problem might be the subject of this article, as well as the melting ice caps. I think the "freeze fear" you're mentioning has little to do with it. There are REAL substantive causes for alarm here....

The point of the global cooling statement was to illustrate how dead wrong the scientific community can be concerning the enviroment. Though the temperature in the last century rose about 2 degrees on average, the century before that it decreased 7. Thus we can conclude the only thing they could be basing their theories on is the maximums since overall the temperature has decreased in the last 2 centuries.

Unless we've had global warming for more than 2 centuries now.