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Old Feb 1st, 2005, 05:27 PM       
For the sake of argument, okay, though I think the stovepiping of intelligence, the outsourcing of interrogation and the dominance of the Pentagon over both State and CIA point to a different conclusion, but for arguments sake...

Now that we know our SUV's are unarmored and we're in urban combat, might we not make a really good effort to armor them? And don't say we are, because after the last time W said that, HUMV said they were perfectly capable of doing a lot more a lot faster and had said so before.

Now that we know we are torturing people, might we not want to cut it the fuck out? Now that we know people finding out we strip pisoners and make them blow each other was kind of bad PR, might we not want to stop doing shit like that?

It's one thing to say that stuff like that has been going on secretly for a long time. It's no secret now. What say we start actually taking reality into account?
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