Yet another stupid evolution 'debate'

[kahljorn]

"I believe there is a negative ethical or moral effect to believing that nothing but blind luck made us so far superior to anything else in the world"

Uh, okay it's not like we had any direct control over how we were made or anything. It's just kind of "luck" that god "Happened" to "Make" "Us".
You don't like evolution because it doesn't let you feel superior to anything else in the world?

What is the negative ethical and moral effect? Please describe it, because I've never heard of a serial killer who tried to devolve people or something.

"I so much prefer the moral and ethical path inferred by intentional existence. "

What? How is it moral and ethical? The bible gives a moral and ethical code, TRUE, but it's not like the entire existence is moral and ethical. God didn't create the animals to not eat eachother. He didn't create us to not kill and steal from eachother. There was a tree of good and evil. We ate it. Stuff happened.

'We were intentionally created with the ability to be immoral and unethical! Yet it's superior to this science that suggests (to you, and only you) that life might be immoral and unethical!'

This makes no sense, preechr, if we can be immoral and unethical because of some science, then god intentionally made it so we could be immoral and unethical, thus existence is not moral or ethical because god did not intentionally create it to be moral or ethical and if he did there would be no problems of things being immoral or unethical.
GOD INTENTIONALLY CREATED THE UNIVERSE/US WITH THE ABILITY TO BE IMMORAL AND UNETHICAL< THAT MUCH IS OBVIOUS BY THE FACT THAT WE ARE IMMORAL A ND UNETHICAL.
Are you saying that something happened without God's intent? Because I thought that was impossible from a religous angle.

Sorry if I repeated myself a few times I just thought that was something important.

"I am willing to say that I accept on it's face whatever it is you propose I should believe on this subject."

I don't want you to believe jackshit, like I mentioned earlier in this thread BELIEF IS ILLOGICAL. I'd rather you use your brain and be a decent human being than believe whatever I tell you.


Religion has been just an immoral and unethical as science has ever been especially in a sociological sense, and don't try to deny it.
Now tell me how it has an immoral and unethical sociological effect, because I can guarantee you it has nothing to do with evolution itself.

I thought I should throw this in at the end:
Are the scientists who work on evolution immoral?
If i believe in evolution will I instantly become an unethical rapist?
Does everyone who believes evolution co nstantly act unethical and immoral?
Has the world changed much since evolution came around? Has it caused alot of people to act immoral?
"Hey man why should I be nice to you man I evolved from a worm!" Have you heard that recently?

I seriously don't see how it causes people to be unethical, I can see you're saying that potentially because people aren't sucking god's cock they might do something naughty(because never in the history of man has anything immoral or unethical happened until evolution came around) and it might trigger some rave of immorality.
The thing I think you're angling at most is that people will give up on living life well. I don't see that happening. Whether we believe god created us, or we came from worms, we still live in this world and if we want to survive amicably then we have to perform certain things. If evolution becomes a fact police officers and the government won't disappear off of the face of the planet. Practically nothing would happen. I mean, we still have life to live.

Regardless of if god created us or not, we still have the same problems to face and the same society to develop in the same way. Nothing will change. We still have responsibility for what happens around us, if anything we have MORE of a responsibility because we are the ones who are actually in charge of making things happen. We can't rely on God anymore, WE have to make things better. Pretty much the same way it is now, huh? I haven't seen God coming down to deliver us morality recently, all of it comes from the heart of humanity. [existentialist]

You're paranoid. And sorry that's scattered I'm in a rush and such.