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Old Aug 29th, 2003, 05:36 PM       
I'm sure you don't care, but just to clear the waters a bit. . .

"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God" (I Cor 11:3). See God is establishing a heirarchy here, a chain of command so to speak, (by the way, John 3:16, the word World is translated badly, in the greek it is signifying of a world order, a chain of command, and what God is saying is that He loved the world He created, and sacrificed His Son in order to re-establish that order, but I disgress). That order, to put things simply, is God, Christ, man, woman, child. Submission, in this sense, is not to be taken as equalitive to inferiority, if it was, Christ and the Holy Spirit would be inferior to God the Father.

What Paul, or Saul if you prefer, is trying to assert is that women are not to "usurp authority over the man." Let it be understood that women are not forbidden the position of teaching. She is commanded to teach children and other women (Titus 1:3-5; I Tim. 5:14). Arguably, albeit, the foremost judge the Israelites ever had was Ruth, and she was a woman. This passage by Paul, or Saul, is meant to be taken as the default, with the understanding implied that God would raise those whom He will, regardless of gender, or race for that matter, though I do believe creed is somewhat involved.

You can take the verse to be mysogenistic by removing the context, but it really isn't :/
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