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Originally Posted by Chojin
Sure.
- The man isn't an idiot.
- Taking steps to make other countries not hate the nation I live in quite as much seems like a good thing to me.
- Even though Kerry clearly said he didn't support this line of thought, I am not of the opinion that the US is somehow more important than all other countries of the world put together. I think under Kerry, we would have had some checks and balances with the rest of the world.
- Our educational system is sad at best and under-funded, which is evidenced in no greater way than the fact that we just re-elected a man who at least thinks and talks like an idiot, and most of America can really relate to that.
- Rich people don't need an 89 billion tax cut as much as our country needed the money to help fund our inane war in iraq and thousands of programs at home.
- Our administration started an endless 'war,' which has already overextended our armies and completely missed its projected goal. It's making a mockery of the intelligence of every American to trust anything they're doing, but it isn't like that was really hard to do in the first place.
- The supreme court was already conservative without adding three more lapdogs to the mix. Bush will now not only get anything he wants, but with no re-election possible in the future, he has nothing to lose, and will irrepairably damage the country and the documents on which it was founded in the name of his crazed beliefs.
- Bush is trying to impose christian values onto everyone in the nation, with a ban on abortion and same-sex marriage outlawed in the constitution. Being a not-christian, this does not make me happy.
- Under Bush, we've had several civil liberties stripped through the passing of the Patriot act, and Patriot II is still in the making. The country is slowing beginning to turn into an Orwellian nightmare, wherein people gladly give up their freedom to feel safe. A former director of the CIA once said "Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither."
- And we'll get neither, since it's obvious security isn't the primary concern of this administration. Upon invading iraq, the only defended building was the oil ministry, and no-one even tried to check in at a well-known munitions dump to see if there was anything there. Aside from showing Bush's intentions in invading Iraq all-too-clearly to all-but-Americans, it also showed that he's apparently uninterested in the security of this nation.
Those are 10, but I feel like I'm playing tennis with a brick wall.
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Stephen Hawking isn't an idiot either, but I certainly wouldn't put him in the White House tomorrow either.
Bush continues to build alliances with other nations. Bush had a very large alliance going into Iraq. Do you speak of governments, or should the U.S. President walk the streets of Belgium and see if he cant swing over a few stoners to the cause? As for Kerry, outside of sacrificing Israel, and allowing the UN to push the demands of the Palestinians, I really don't see yur point. What measures exactly di Kerry propose? Was he going to stay up late one night and make some phone calls or something? Take Chirac to a titty bar? What. He never once outlined a plan HOW he was going to rebuild alliances.
I am not of the opinion that we are more important either. I am, however, of the opinion that the safety of the citizens of this country is more important than anything else..... when it comes to the responsibilities of the President of the United States of America. Remember the original purpose of the Federal Government Chojin? Read the Constitution.
What the hell does our education system have to do with the federal government Chojin? Again, I refer you to the Constituion. I would also perhaps suggest that you read up on your state's issues and become active within your state to improve the education system IN your state.
Rich people didn't get an 89 billion dollar tax cut. Do you actually read anything, or do you just drool along with Dan Rather. Number one, the category, so appropriately being called "the rich people" included every entrepeneur and small business owner out there who was making more than $200,000, for their business. They would not have been able to stay in business should they have been bent over by liberal tax cuts brought down by the Kerry administration. As for actual people who make more than $200k personally, they would merely have changed the way they file for minimum taxes and paid less than they do under Bush. Look it up in our current FLAWED tax laws.
Overextended our army? Bill Clinton deployed more soldiers than George Bush. Endless War? Where do you see that. Iraq is moving along. Slower than expected, but progress is being made.
The Supreme Court is conservative. Clinton had eight years. Why is it wrong that Bush has eight years? Only fair.
Never once has Bush pushed for a ban on abortion. There is a tremendous difference between abortions performed during early-mid pregnancies, and sucking the brain out of an 8 month old fetus which would otherwise survive outside the womb. I don't agree with amending the Constitution on gay marriage either. It's a states issue and should stay that way. John Kerry was against gay marriage on the state's level also.
I'm so sick of hearing we're sacrificing freedoms. Where have you been opressed in this country Chojin? Flying is a priveledge not a right. So don't us airport security. What else? What has changed in your daily life? What has the federal government taken away from you? If your so terrified of a government controlled state, perhaps you are only a hop, skip and a jump away from being a right-wing gun toting militia leader. Again, I refer you to your constitutional right to bear arms, and why that right was granted.
The oil ministry was defended for the simple purpose of avoiding Sadam lighting them againm again. It was credible intelligence, and we acted on it. Every intention was made to move forward on Baghdad as rapidly as possible. The initial objective of the soldiers was not to act in an investigative manner, but to secure the country as rapidly as possible to avoid unnecessary loss of life. As for you "all-but-Americans" theory, Bush had an alliance of over 30 countries, but much like your failed candidate, I guess those dont count to you.
As for your answer, not one issue (save "Taking steps to make other countries not hate the nation I live in quite as much seems like a good thing to me," which was incomplete and didn't state a stance or a plan) you pointed out had anything to do with Kerry, which is exactly why Democrats lost this election. You have to find someone to vote for, not against. Your entire argument was based on hatred and anger. I can easily identify ten issues I am FOR. I voted FOR how I wanted the country to proceed. I could give a shit about what I didn't like about John Kerry.
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