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					Originally Posted by ItalianStereotype
					
				 there is no excuse, not hunger or thirst or the discomfort of displacement, for rape and murder.  even animals will shit in the corner. | 
	
 1 animal in 1 cage will shit in the corner.  20 animals in a cage large enough for 10 will kill their own packmates.
not that it is a fine and dandy thing to act like an animal, but if you have never known desperation then you have no basis for analyzing desperate acts.