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Old Jan 25th, 2006, 10:00 PM       
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Pan Arabism is a political ideology that calls for the establishment of an Arab State in the area that was ruled by the Arabs during the Umayyads Dynasty.
Stop giving us big words for something so simple. Pan-Arabism is just another word for 'racial unity' as opposed to religious unity, as it was a more pragmatic goal. This was also easier to achieve than Pan-Islamism. Muslim unity could not be realized except through Arab unity anyways, that's why Pan-Arabism was seen as a practical step.

There. No need for anything else. Unless you want to get into European colonialism, which is a loooong story that I'd rather you look up yourself. Along with what the Salafiyyah's aspired, which was replaced with Pan-Arabism. In al-Husri's words, I'm pararaphasing, I don't remember the quote and can't be bothered to look it up, "religion is something between you and God, the fatherland is here for all of us to take care of." Or something to that effect. That's why the Pan-Arabists considered this movement to be political AND religious, since Islam couldn't be seperated from its strong Arab roots.

While eating a banana I realized that I should add something. Pan-Islamists, Pan-Arabists, al-Banna (whom I mentioned earlier), the radical Islamists and the Islamic socialists ALL called for a return to what they referred to as the "unadulterated Muslim community" (which was established by prophet Mohammed in Medina.) Of course everyone had different visions of that community. The Wahabists (if you wanna talk about Imams you have to familiarize yourself with this) had an exlusivist vision: Anyone who doesn't share it, including the Shiites and the Sufis, would be killed. Nice! Notice how there's many Wahabists in Saudi Arabia who'd still like to follow this model? Notice how many of these Wahabists serve as Imams?

And you want me to be more in touch with them. I like how you just assumed that all Imams preached for the same thing. A lot of them are extremists. An Imam, in its simple definition, in Arabic, means the one who "leads" the prayer. It doesn't mean anything else. Don't tell me these are like the know-it alls of Islam. Michael Jackson knows more about Islam than some of these fucks by just LIVING here*

*Here: West Ruffa, Bahrain.*
*Bahrain: Not Iran.*
*Iran: Not part of the Arab League. It's a powerful country in the region*, however.
*Middle East.

There, I was as clear as I could get.
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