Remember, we asked for this....

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Originally Posted by Geggy

What about the rest of them Iraqis who disagrees?

Disagreement is perfectly fine. In civil society, we have various ways to handle these things. In modernized countries, torturing and murdering someone you dislike is criminal, last I checked.

You're absolutely correct. And Americans don't torure!

I won't be so bold as to claim that we've played this by the book. Abu Graib (sp?) was disgraceful, and GITMO is outrageous. There's no place for that kind of shit, especially since its utility is debatable. Soldiers do bad shit while at war, this is unavoidable.

But here's the difference-- when we do things like this, you and maybe Max will start a thread on it, and scream for George Bush's impeachment. When Arabs do it (the biggest killers of innocent Arab citizens in the Middle East, don't forget that) you make excuses for them, and blame the activists and missionaries over there. Go figure.

EDIT: I wouldn't suggest that Max makes such excuses, but you certainly have.

DUUUHHHH...but the questions are who were they and what were their motives for killing him? Was it because he was an american? Or was it because he was an activist?

Why the fuck does it matter?

Excusing what? I'm not following. I just think it's suicidal to be white, unarmed and walking around Iraq during this time of war.

It's suicidal because we're dealing with hateful, igonorant, and violent people. Once again, I believe these monsters are a minority. A small one. Why make stupid excuses for them???

Plus you should be more careful about what you read and hear.

Do you even know who Jill Carroll is? Go visit the website that she works for and tell me what their views on the war and the current administration are...How did the iraqis, if that is who you think, who captured her, know that she was an american? I doubt she prances around Iraq wrapped in an american flag.

Go find the thread started about it, and then tell me who started it. You maybe didn't see it, it probably got buried under all of your schizophrenic 9/11 threads.

I know about her views on the war, which makes the crime against her all the more outrageous. Kidnapping the press in itself is outrageous. I have no patience for this shit, and I refuse to make excuses for the people who do it.