The Gospel of Judas

[kahljorn]

The christian bible submits the exact same approach as the gnostics, it's just in the interpretation. Yes we are sinners, but we are sinners because we are away from God because in Genesis we succombed and ate the apple, which is symbolic of the gnostic fall and a derivitive from earlier mythological stories depicting the same event. You remember how in genesis before we ate the apple we were perfect and then afterwords we succombed to the earthly manifestations? Hence, "Prison".
The earthly sphere is where sin is, while in heaven is where bliss is. I don't see how that's any different, you don't get to heaven while you're still in your earthly form. Even the bible says it's after you die.

There's also various accounts within the bible besides jesus' story in which the fleshy prison was escaped. Burning chariots anyone? Stairways to heaven?

Somebody seriously submit how the foundations are any different.

By the way fleshy prison or whatever you called it is a stupid definition and is a horrible representation of what gnostics actually believe, although I'm sure a ton of assholes would put it to you in a day to day conversation because I've dealt with that attitude before as well, but for clarification purposes you should know that's not entirely accurate. It's simply a matter of that being the way the world works here. People die, there's drama and strife contstantly. It's "Nature", and what we desired.
Whenever you are considering spiritual beliefs it is based to consider them in a very real fashion. Try to imagine how it would function in the day to day world, and the effects it would have. Essentially, meditate on it. It's SUPPOSED to be realistic and relative to life, otherwise it would be pointless. It's supposed to be obvious and describe the obvious problems here on earth and offer the somewhat obvious answers. Because like I said, if it didn't why would it be so valuable? Why would people invest their lives into studying it? How would we even be able to observe it in the first place?
Believing religion and spirituality describes something beyond us that we can never acheive is a ridiculous cop-out entirely contrary to the fundamental concept of it.