Yet another stupid evolution 'debate'

[Preechr]

Originally Posted by ziggytrix

preechr, plese cut the pathetic fallacies

fire doesn't seek out oxygen. fire is a combustive chemical reaction between oxygen and a fuel.

likewise government and poplitics have no wills of their own. government and politics are actions taken by people. people may have egos, but the concept of government does not. your claims to the contrary seem extremely irrational.

and what exactly does ANY of this have to do with evolution or science?

We already sorted out that first bit for you, so let me address the rest of my fallacies for you now.

Government and politics do not have minds of their own. They are inanimate devices... Tools. Just as I can bend iron to make scissors, I can bend ideas to make a government and political change. Ideas and theories are bent, twisted, sharpened and fastened together in such a way as to make a an extremely complex mechanism that has limitations and specialized purposes just like any pair of scissors or jet engine.

The purpose of scissors is to cut stuff, maybe stab an eye out.

Government is a tool civilized folk use to keep their societies working in their favor. Some folks believe what's best for all is best for each of us, but other folks would rather take a stricter view and do their best to win undue influence by limiting the actions of others. This clash of intentions gave birth to the tool of politics.

Just like scissors, these tools are designed specifically for an intended purpose. Government is designed to restrict liberty. That's about as destructive a thing you can do to a person, and we all support it to some degree. That makes it potentially the most terrible human force on the planet. We should be extremely careful when we use this tool.

There. We agree, right?

So I'm no longer irrational in your view?

...and this has very little to do with the evolution debate. It's tangential, but generally related. Pretty soon I'm gonna start souting that religion and science are two sides to the same coin. It might make better sense then.